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Memeing for nefarious purposes.
ships that pass in the night
Indeed, surprise nefarious purposes. Exam-related surprise nefarious purposes for the Greater Good.

[Also because I'd like to redirect my brain from some stuff.]

Pick any several! characters from a fandom of mine and I'll answer the following questions:
1) What is your opinion of this character? If you like, explain why you like him/her.
2) Is he/she important to the general plot?
3) Can you relate to this character at all? Does he/she grip you emotionally?
4) How much do you like the fandom that this character comes from?
5) Do you ship this character with any other character? Or, are you particularly intrigued by his/her relationship with any other character(s)? (romance-wise or platonic)
6) Is there anything about the character you would change?
7) If you were in the fandom with this character or knew this character in real life, how would you see yourself interacting with him/her? Would you get along well? Fall in love with him/her? Dislike? Have a friendly rivalry?
8) Does this character make the cut as one of your all time favorites (if you like) or least favorites?
9) Would you hype up this character (if you like) or warn about this character (if you dislike) to someone new to fandom?
10) Is this character popular with the fanbase?

Also, come talk to me, flist. How are you?

ETA: I take it back. It's just meme pour meme, because my recording equipment is, inevitably, dead. It was going to be this thing where I practice for my eventual Speaking English Like a Motherfucking Adult exam by answering the questions out loud, but I'm too impatient (you people gave me excellent characters) and have no idea when the equipment will start working again. So, I give you my textual answers, but feel free to stew in soft anticipation of Hearing Chilla's Voice one day soon.

ETA2: For yet more characters (including Tara!), feel free to check out the parallel DW post:
One day I, too, shall have figured out crossposting.

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Sorry, still didn't get to the Illyria bit of AtS. (Still stuck mid-S3; I confess myself reluctant to continue because of gut-clenching Whedonfear.) Someone else please?

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1) I am extremely fond of Luna, especially in DH.
2) She's a leader of the Hogwarts rebellion, so she's clearly important to -a- plot, if not exactly -the- plot.
3) Well, I don't relate to her, but I love her philosophy of believing in things as a default rather than always playing skeptic.
4) I have - disconnected from the HP fandom, but I have fond memories of it.
5) I shipped Luna/Dean since ever, so I have to admit I felt utter glee in DH, when it was made canon she
a. draws well
b. she and Dean form a friendship and hold hands.
It's still among my favourite HP ships - I imagine theirs is a romance where passion and inspiration are constant (but less intense than a Weasley-romance would be), and they help each other heal using colours.
6) I wouldn't change anything about Luna (except I disregard the Scamander thing, because, honestly, Rolf?!)
7) I can't imagine Luna'd be in fandom. Well, an obscure book fandom, maybe. And she'd write those weird high-quality poemfics that nobody would ever review. Also, if she were real, I think I'd love chatting with her but I doubt we'd be friends.
8) Nope, neither cut.
9) There's nothing to warn about.
10) "Fanbase" is too compact a term for the various sparring factions of HP fandom. I'm sure she's popular in some parts of it.

Dean/Luna! So much love! They were one of the reoccurring bits in DH that kept me smiling and squeeing. (Along with the Malfoys obviously, and the two seconds that we got of Andromeda.)

I have bits of an unfinished fic that looks at their breakup. I'm still really pleased with the bits I did write. Its all messed up and one of those relationships where the never stopped loving each other its just that they needed different things. They had different ambitions and neither we willing to compromise. It would have been so gut wrenching had I ever managed to finish it.

wesley! and aragorn. and galadriel.

hi there too :)

Hi, you. I always love seeing you here too!

Awesome choices, of course.

1) I don't actually like him much. He's like... spinach? Tasty, but too bland on its own and tiresome in huge quantities.
2) I assume he's important. My stalemate with AtS continues.
3) I can't really identify with him at all. Or, maybe, some parts of his backstory feel familiar (khm, maximalist fathers, khm), but his way of being - of always looking at the Big Picture is sort of alien to me.
4) It has an awesome repertoire of idfics, so I like it.
5) I ship him with Gunn like burning. Also Willow, mostly just because I think writing a fic titled "Rosenberg and Wyndham-Price Are Dead" would be the hight of hilarity.
6) I'd change... Well, I'd change whatever it is he's about to do on AtS to inevitably ruin the bliss and harmony of the previous two eps.
7)Fandom!Wesley would write extremely precise meta and possibly be overly zealous on promoting Social Justice.
8) No, neither. Although if he does what I think he'll do (steal Connor and ruin everybody's life forever), he'll definitely be on the "least favourite" bench for a slow while.
9) Mm, neither? I'd let them judge for themselves.
10) Oh, yes, he's popular, for very obvious reasons. And I love fandom's Wesley a lot more than canon Wesley. Both the deep-characterisationy, sympathetic, struggling heroic/anti-heroic version and the idfic one.

1) I like Aragorn a lot. Especially in Two Towers, inbetween the Strider persona and the High King one.
2) He's somewhat instrumental to stuff happening, yes.
3) His Plight grips me emotionally. He's just so exhausted throughout the book - kind, wise, but exhausted - that I never felt... close to him (which, Sam says as much, doesn't he, when they past the Middle-Earth Mount Rushmore place), but his story's very important to me anyway.
4) I keep it well away; sometimes there's attack dogs.
5) Aragorn/Arwen. Always and not-forever-that's-the-whole-point.
6) I'd change nothing.
7) Heh, I'd bow awkwardly and move out of his way to get drunk with Gimli and Legolas.
8) He's an all time SOMETHING (hero? Gibraltar?) but not favourite, exactly.
9) I have no idea. It'd depend on if they saw the film, I reckon.
10) Presumably so.

1) She's been my hero since I was five.
2) She is, she is. Her importance is more offscreen (by her choice), but she's destructive and protective and strategic and one of the, what, five most powerful beings in the world right then?
3) I can, I can. I would always rather deminish and move west and stay Galadriel - I never want grand power, not even if it's offered, not even if I SHOULD take it, not even for the Greater Good.
4) See above.
5) I really cannot care about her ships. I loved her interactions with Aragorn and Gimli and Sam though.
6) Nothing, but I'd love to know more about Galadriel, Noldor maiden who chose to leave Eden.
7) I'd probably do what Sam did.
8) DEFINITELY among my all-time favourites.
9) I'd wax lyrical about her to anyone who'd listen.
10) Eh, I don't know. Do you know?

Tyrion Lannister
Buffy Anne Summers

See Luna above!

1) Tyrion's my favourite Lannister and I tend to enjoy his POVs the most, because he's an extremely hilarious (albeit angsty) person.
2) Oui, he's important. Hopefully he'll keep being important rather than dead.
3) Oh, I can... I can definitely relate to Tyrion. I also see the ways I'm starkly different from him. But. His choices are sometimes wrong (very wrong; the hardest for me to forgive was killing Shae) - but I can always understand them.
4) Is there a SoIaF fandom? I see how it might be stilted by GRRM's dislike of fanfic. Although I'm sure it'll grow now that there's a TV series.
5) I ship... Well, I ship him with , but the chances of that happening are... okay, 20% actually. But I ADORE his canon relationship with Jaime, and Cersei, and Sansa. Such an interesting mix of kindness and cruelty and gender roles and expectations (which are different for him, but also not).
6) Killing Shae. Really, really hard for me to accept.
7) I think I'd get along with him splendidly. He's my top choice of SoIaF characters to hang with (assuming he's not, you know, on a murderous rampage).
8) I... maybe? Maybe. Sometimes. Depending on my mood. Depending on what happens in the next book. He could be.
9) No idea. He's far from universally likable.
10) I have never seen Tyrionfic, but I'm not sure I want to. (Although I want it to exist, I'd just not read it. Which is... admittedly hypocritical. But. Come on, people, he's the perfect woobie hero, were's all the fix-it and the Tyrion/Jon romances?)

* 5) Well, I ship him with Tysha.

Tysha, his first love, who shouldn't ever forgive him. (Should she? He was thirteen. But then, I doubt she was much older either.)

Akh, ran out of time! Sorry, I'll tell you about Buffy (Buffy <3!) and Ron (Ron <3!) tomorrow or Monday or somewhere in the near future when my brain isn't sleep-fried.

Ronald Bilius Weasley
1) I love him utterly. Tried to write a stanza about it, ("His hair is as red as a Gryffindor sheet!"), but the awesome of him cannot fit into four lines, no matter how well-rhymed.
2) Hell yes. Without his actions but also his presence (and influence on Harry), the war wouldn't have been won.
3) I do identify with some aspects - his pride, mostly. The lake scene in DH is Significant to me for various personal reasons as well as contextual ones.
4) HP fandom and I have amicably parted ways for the most part.
5) I ship him with Hermione like I never shipped anything. Also, his friendship with Harry makes my heart siiiing. I don't mind shipping them, as long as Hermione's there too. In fact, I find Ron and Hermione as a unit shippable with almost anyone. Always excepting Snape.
6) There's nothing I'd change except for him losing Fred - it's unnecessary, and I resent it still.
7) I'd have a crush on him a mile wide, but I'd simultaneously have a crush on his lovelife and RL-ship him and Hermione a whole lot.
8) DEFINITELY among my ever-favourites.
9) I'd pimp him madly and there would probably be quotes.
10) Not nearly as popular as I'd like - which is, again, my way of demanding Ron-themed idfic.

Buffy Anne Summers

1) Buffy:
a. is funny on purpose
b. has her special brand of brilliant nobody else can copy
c. inverses ALL the gender things
d. is my favourite character.

2) Mm-hm.

3) I identify with S7 Buffy in a way that I've never identified with any fictional character - I feel like her S7 is a metaphor for my life, and it's very significant in bridging the Turok-Han invasiony bits thereof.

Oh, I also identify with her on a more superficial level - I, too, strive to be funny on purpose, I, too, was raised to believe that men dig up the corpses and the women have the babies, I, too, do the Big Sister thing more than may be appropriate.

4) Well, I like the bits that are around you seem to be cool. I love that there's frank discussion of depression, of sex, of gender expectations and delight in the subversion thereof. But, frankly, even this bright little pocket sometimes feels too conflicty for me. Ergo: the fringes! (And I will never dare to enter other bits.)

5) Oh, Buffy/Spike. It makes me gleeful. Especially its BDSM contexts (one day I will talk about dominance, submission, sadism and masochism in their relationship and the way it's different from any other model of ship I've ever seen) and the blazing humour. I also adore Buffy's relationships with Dawn, Giles and Tara. (Also love the possibilities of Buffy/Tara, especially if Tara were resurrected and dealing with the "losing heaven" thing.)

6) Je regrette rien.

7) I. Have no way of answering this that won't make me sound like a berk.

8) THE favourite. The One.

9) I guess I'd hype her up, and I'd also leave "it's fine if you don't like her but please don't discuss it with me" disclaimers.

10) Yes, she is. This is a good thing, as it leads to awesome meta.

I am okay. Work has slowed down considerably since I had to write three essays in a week. Also I handed in my dissertation proposal which if it is successful means I get to write about wodwos (wild men) next year. Which is a good way to find out if academia is really for me.

May have only just remembered that I signed up for the hpcanonships fest. Ooops. I may have to actually start writing that Draco/Asteria story.

On that note: Draco, for old times sake and Nina from Being Human. Also Mitchell.

Have you caught up with it yet. Please say you have, I can direct you to meta? :-)

Really glad you're surviving the grind of essay-writing. When will you know if you diss idea is accepted? Wodwos look BRILLIANT. Why did you choose them?

I STILL haven't watched S3, but I'll tell you when I do. My life's kinda rollerskatey currently. I need to sleep (I keep misspelling things I oughtn't), but I'll definitely do the meme for you some time soom!

I should know pretty soon. And I'm not too worried cause even if the English department don't accept it the History department will. So many upsides to being a joint honours student.

Wodwos are brilliant. There are some really interesting sources for them and pretty pictures too. I've found them fascinating ever since they were mentioned in a lecture last term. (Along with Green Men, generally carvings of men with plants coming out of their mouths. Which despite the 'pagan' connotations are often found in churches.) I find the whole concept of these half human, half wild figures really exciting. Cause how they are used has to say something about what medieval people feared. And its all about human identity and boundaries and it makes me get my academic geek on.

Also the sources I found have already formed a bit of a coherent picture. Wodwos tend to be used to define a place away from humans, where the monsters dwell as it were. But then they are also used to describe humans. So there is a bleed through between the world. The wodwos can't be kept out.

I will contain my spoilery squee about BH until then. So difficult. :-)

And I hope that the rollerskates come under control soon.


1) Okay, confession time: I do like Draco, but only since DH. I don't think him not saying "Yes, it's Potter and Granger, kill them all, kill them now" was particularly heroic, but it showed he's - lost his bravado, lost whatever skewed ethical code he had, and I'm really interested in what's left when that's taken away.

2) He's way less important to the plot than I expected he'd be and I'm okay with that. (Though he got mentioned in the Grand Showdown Speech, a fact which makes me oddly gleeful.)

3) I don't identify with him, no, nor does he influence my emotions. Just my curiousity.

4) Well, I like bits of the fandom. Ie. you; Des; porn.

5) I loved his relationship with his parents (so skewed and squashed but true) and really resent the fact he never got to meet Tonks. I don't really ship him with anyone. Or I ship him with everyone? Again, except Snape. And I don't really like the feel of Harry/Draco (and greatly prefer Draco/Weasley-of-choice, because, less with the chilly mutual resentment and way more of the fisticuffs.)

6) The receding hairline, because I felt it was a cheap dig. (I still titter at "Scorpius" though. Scorpius Hyperion. Oh Draco.)

7) Oh, a fannish Draco would strive towards BNFdom but never quite reach it. He'd change fandoms and accounts often and drastically and he'd have a tendency to sic his flist upon randomly selected non-popular members of his fandom. There'd be grand wank-writeup about him that I'd read with interest, but otherwise I'd stay out of his way.

8) Neither a favourite nor a least favourite.

9) "Warning: bigoted smarmy potentially sexually appealing git content."

10) V v v popular. I do get why. And I love certain fannish incarnations of him (especially Lust over Pendle Draco).

Mitchell - note that my scope of canon ends with S2. Still haven't watched all of S3 (although I've seen the spoilers - I know who lived and who died) and amn't ready to make my thoughts public about what I have watched.

1) Well, I used to like him. Then he killed a subway. That sorta ruined the attraction.

2) He's a main character. In fact, he was becoming THE main character in S2, and that is never a good idea.

3) I identify with his universal need to be liked, and I'm... I don't know. Made uncomfortable, possibly in a good way, by the dark aspects of that need.

4) Dunno, never got into it much.

5) I ship the OT4, and would like it if it stopped him from chasing the heteronormative pipe dream (which is part of what the Lucy romance was). I don't ship any fraction of it without including the other two. Oh, and also Mitchell/Josie delights and intrigues my inner Tarantino-fan.

6) Well, again, I would rather like it if he hadn't KILLED A FUCKING SUBWAY. I can mentally differentiate that Mitchell (who intrigues me) from the S1 one (whom I liked) though.

7) If he hadn't recently been left by his creationist scientist girlfriend, we'd probably have a nice flirt that'd leave me giddy for days. If he had, I'd be lunch, which would leave me dead.

8) He's definitely on my Most Disappointing list.

9) Warn, definitely.

10) Well-liked or deeply-hated, depending, I think.


1) Lovelovelove. Rational and clever and hilarious.

2) Yes. Nina matters.

3) Well, it's more "holy fuck *_*" rather than identification.

4) See above.

5) I love her relationship with George. Also ship her with Annie and non-psychokiller fanMitchell, preferably at the same time (while George is resting).

6) Not really!

7) If Nina was in fandom, she'd write hilarious scathing feminist analyses of TV shows (her blog would be titled Dirty Lady Time). She wouldn't be unkind towards other fans, unless they provoked her, in which case she'd rip them to shreds verbally. I'd fan-crush on her from afar but never actually converse.

8) On my extended list of favourites, definitely.

9) I'd enthuse about her obnoxiously.

10) Fandom either loves her or hates her, I think? I've seen way more love than hate, though, happily.

I do remember us both bonding over being a bit meh about Draco in the old UR days. He definitely got more interesting as the series progressed. Personally my tipping point was HBP cause crying in bathrooms about not being able to save your parents really does it for me I guess. Also the Tower scene. And Harry being ridiculously stalkery and Draco, for the first time in five years, being all 'There are more important things in my life right now than you Potter.' Also the nose stomping, it is horrible to read but still, never gets old. I 'like' him in HBP because it finally seems like he's growing up and then DH is an extension of that. Cause Draco can talk that talk but at the end of the day he's know the Trio since he was eleven and doesn't really want to hand them over to Voldemort. Which is a pretty big thing seeing as his family is involved and egging him on.

I may have written stuff about Draco post DH. I may have been silently fuming about the casual insults thrown at Draco fans over at Mark Reads Harry Potter. As you say, the place where he is left is really interesting. Stripped of all the privilege he had, all the stuff he relied upon, what is left? Is it possible for him the properly start to grow? And I'd like to think that that nod between him and Harry in the Epilogue (*spits*) is an indication that that happened. I just want to know how.

I'm a bit more in to the Harry/Draco. Mainly because there is just an awful lot of feelings and obsession there. In some ways I find the train scene in HBP uncomfortably hot. Sudden power imbalances FTW! But I still have trouble actually reading a lot of the fic about them.

It is also part of my personal canon that Draco had a huge and ridiculously repressed crush on Hermione for quite a while. The slap didn't help matters there.

I think that receding hairlines can look very dignified. Take that JKR.

I demand to know all your many thoughts on one Charles Gunn. Please do keep the drooling to yourself though. I watched AtS years before you and therefore get first dibs on the men.

I shall drool over whomever I damn well please!

Tomorrow. Or Monday. Or whatever day comes after that. I need to go sleep now. Possibly dream. About Gunn. So there.

[Fine, you can have him, as long as I get 50% of the vampires on BtVS, 66% of the Doctors and 77% of Weasleys. And I get Gunn on every second Tuesday to drag me to the ballet and eat ridiculous American dishes.]

You can have all the vampires on BtVS. Just leave me Giles and Xander and Oz on weekends so I can go to his concerts and say 'My boyfriend's in the band'.

I dunno how we're going to divide 11 Doctors like that. Did the math and it means you get 7.26 Doctors. I suppose shall give you the first seven (cuz they're all old and have weird outfits) and Eight every fourth month. That means I get Nine, Ten & Eleven all to myself. Isn't it nice how that worked out?

You can have 57% of the Weasley's, that's much more reasonable.


1) Lovelovelove, ever since the "evil white man's Mecca".

2) Oui, oui. I do hope he'll keep being important, and resist being pushed aside by the deadly force of Angel and Wesley's combined manpaining. [Which, btw, he's at least as entitled to, what with the having to kill his sister - but notice that he doesn't seem to engage in it much at all. Ergo, <3.]

3) I don't identify with him, but he definitely - just delights me? Makes me a bit happier when he's on screen? Between him and Cordy, bits of AtS are actually happy shining comfort viewing for me.

4) I like it, I think, except there seems to be a chronic lack of Gunn generally and grand Gunn-based pornish AUs particularly. Am I looking in the wrong places?

5) I ship him and Wesley ever since "... You're so cool!" in the duck-walking-stick scene. Also Dawn, because Dawn's a whole lot like Wesley but more compassionate, I think.

6) The only thing I'd change is make him less rude to Lorne, because, well, Lorne deserves people being less rude to him.

7) Well, because I respect your amorous claim upon him, I would only work furiously to woo him in secret. (And I don't even think it'd work - he's not the cheating sort.)

8) On an extended list of favourites, I think.

9) He's definitely on my list of "Reasons people ought to watch AtS".

10) See answer 4.

1) That was the moment he sold me as well. He such a breath of fresh air to the Whedon world.

3) How much did you love their episode together in the beginning of season two? I so wish they could have gotten their own spin-off.

4) No, sadly, fandom is more for Wesley.

I saw Tyrion above, soooo. CERSEI.

who is predictable, not this girl~


1) Well, "like" is sometimes among the various things I feel towards her.

2) She was born to be the woman we could blame - for the war starting. She isn't, it's not her fault (I do wonder if the Starks and Stannis would have played the Game of Thrones if Joffrey was Robert's. Presumably not until he was a proven psycho), but I like how her - not fitting into the script of "choiceless birth-giver" creates so much plot.

3) I am way petrified of power, so, no, but I get why she needs it. And I love that she seeks love, and finds it (and that she provides it, too, for Jaime, despite everything).

4) See above re: Tyrion.

5) Oh, I ship Jaime/Cersei in all their twisted child-making child-killing glory. Also, I adored her interaction with Ned for some reason.


What did you think of the idea of her being in actual love with Robert? Seems hilariously off to me, but you've a better insight upon her than I do.


6) No, I wouldn't change anything, though I love imagining what would have happened if she and her children had fled like Ned intended them to. Would they have allied with Targaryens? Surely Dany wouldn't have. They would have returned eventually though, despite Jaime's languid protests.

7) I imagine there would be a whole lot of cringing obeisance on my part and disdainful sniffing on hers.

8) Neither.

9) I'd probably introduce her as a fascinating study in gendered power. It'd be a hit at parties.

10) Well, she's popular with you, which is a good thing, because your meta Taught Me So Much.

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